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There was no column planned for this week because I had given everyone at the corporate offices of Iron History International a week off, but events have happened which demand mention, so we are offering an abbreviated column.

Red Pencil Notes: In MILO Jun 2002 p 91 there appears a typo crediting Inch with a one hand clean of 313 lbs 14 ounces. Should be 214 lbs 14 ounces.

This week we start with INCH 101: part 14, because of Mark Henry's successful one hand clean and push press with an Inch replica on Jun 22, 2002 in New Jersey.

Let's start with an explanation of how I date the events in Inch's life:

Inch was born Dec 27, 1881, but if no specific date is offered for an event in his life then his Dec 27th birth date is ignored and rolled over to Jan 1. In other words, if something happened to Inch when he was age one, then technically it could be said to have happened in 1882- but only four days of 1882. So when Inch says he acquired his first thick handled dumbell at age 15, that would be 1896, but unless he acquired the bell during the final four days of 1896, it is more communicative to say he acquired it in 1897, or at least during the first 360 plus days of 1897. Of course, if a specific date is offered then it is used in age calculations and references.

Chronology of some events regarding Thomas Inch. These are based on comparing many, sometimes conflicting texts, and trying to filter fact from fiction. Some of these are not definite, but are my best thoughts/guesses on the matters at my current knowledge. And, there are presented in chronological order:

It was announced at the Oldtimers' dinner when Henry made his lift that the 172 had been manufactured in 1898. A careful comparison of the various stories about the 172 reveals that not to be the case.

1881 Inch is born
1897 Inch acquires the 140 pound thick handled dumbell
1897 Saxon Trio performing at Grand Theatre in Sheffield
1899 late in this year the Saxon Trio toured South Africa and India
1901 Saxon Trio in Leipzig, Moscow, and England
1902 Arthur Saxon in Manchester, England
1903 Inch moves to London at age 21; meets Arthur Saxon
1903 Inch finally manages to lift the 140 off the floor
1904 Saxon visited every Sandow school in England
1904 Arthur Saxon bent presses 331 in Liverpool
1904 Inch acquires the 153 pound thick handled dumbell
1904 Inch acquires the 75 pound thick handled dumbell (for his left hand)
1905 Arthur Saxon bent presses 335.75 in London
1905 Inch becomes able to continental and jerk the 140
1905 Arthur Saxon bent presses 370 in Stuttgart, Germany
1906 Inch acquires the 172 pound Inch Challenge Dumbell
1907 Introduces the 172 to a London audience
1908 Apollon & Padoubny wrestle three times at Hengler's Circus, London; this, I
believe, I when Saxon and Inch took the 172 to Hengler's for Padoubny to try. Apollon,
over a disputed decision in wrestling had withdrawn from the tournament for a few days,
and it is my belief that Inch used this window of time to avoid Apollon having a try at the
172. Various reports have stated that Inch left the bell for one day or for two weeks. The
one day fits history better, because Apollon returned within one week, and had the bell
been there he would have played with it.
1908 Saxon's mishap in Brussels
1909 Saxon's first tour of America
1910 Saxon bent presses 300 at Attila's Gym in NYC
1911 Saxons performing in America
1911 Inch staying with the Saxons in England, training
1912 Saxon in Vienna
1913 Saxon home to England to see his wife
1913 The Inch 172 is now referred to as 'famous'
1913 Inch moved to Scarborough
1914 Saxon in Germany
1914 World War One begins
1914 Saxons perform in Leipzig, Geneva, and Berm
1920 Inch showed how the 172 'should be handled'
Aug 6, 1921 Arthur Saxon dies
Nov 26, 1921 Inch, for the first time, asserts that Saxon was not able to ever lift the 172
Circa 1929 Inch began competitions with, not the 172, but the 140 lb bell, which he
called his Competition bell. Two hands were allowed to the shoulder and then reps in the
one hand jerk from the shoulder determined the winners.
1931 The 172 is retired until World War Two.

By a careful study of that list, you can determine that Inch's claim that Arthur Saxon tried for '15 years' to master the 172 bell, cannot be accurate. If the bell was manufactured in 1906, and if Arthur did not return to England after 1914, then an eight year span is the most exposure that Arthur could have had to the 172- PLUS those eight years were hardly a period of uninterrupted concentrated training on the bell.

The Thomas Inch Challenge Dumbell at 172 pounds and 2.38" diameter handle, or the more recent replicas of the same with 2.47" diameter handle have become a topic of considerable discussion and debate in recent months. Quite frankly, until we began examining the history of what turned out to be four almost identical dumbbells with weights of 75, 140, 153, and 172 pounds, most sources of history claimed there were only three Inch bells.

Also, Inch claimed to have lifted the 172 bell overhead literally 'hundreds of times' in his lifetime, and at a bodyweight much, much lower than anyone currently seriously thinking of having a chance to clean and push-press, or clean and jerk the 172. In 1937 Inch made this 'hundreds of times' claim even though the bell had been retired for six years at that time, so if he acquired the bell in 1906 which is my opinion based on an incredible amount of study, and if he stopped trying to lift it in 1931, which he acknowledges, then those hundreds of times must have happened in the quarter century from 1906 to 1931. But we know there were periods in that span when he was unable to lift it; this knowledge comes by his own, perhaps inadvertent, admission.

So if Inch could one hand clean and jerk the 172 at will using his powers of concentration directed at the specifically involved muscles, and he began doing this nearly one hundred years ago before modern training methods, and enhanced nutrition, and drugs, why is it that we were awaiting SOMEONE of any size, who gained that size by any means, to step forward and not hundreds of times, but simply a single time, grab hold of the 172 and clean it one handed and thrust it overhead? Inch claimed that of all the contemporary strongmen who tried, not a one succeeded. Being careful to await Saxon's death, Inch then claimed that Arthur himself never mastered the bell even after years of trying, and of having his own replica manufactured, which he did conquer, but somehow the magical mystery tour of Inch's bell escaped the skilled hand of Saxon. Hogwash.

First, of course, Inch never lifted it in this manner hundreds of times, or dozens of times, indeed, he never cleaned and jerked it at all, but would instead substitute one of the lighter bells, according to Edward Aston, who was in Inch's employ for awhile. Indeed, the very reason that Inch refused to disclose the dimensions of the bell was that if he had so disclosed, then anyone with a scale and a tape measure might catch his slight of hand. He did claim to reveal the actual weight of the bell to Deriaz. Aston, finally tiring of being challenged by Inch to lift the 172, countered and told Inch to lift the bell one handed, put it down one handed, and LEAVE IT sitting on stage so that Aston could immediately try to lift it. Aston, in my opinion had seen Inch numerous times lift one of the lighter, identical bells, then carry it off stage and later that evening return with the 172 to offer his challenge. Aston therefore accepted Inch's challenge, but to my knowledge Inch never agreed to those terms. Why not? Hundreds of times but he did not want to lift it a single rep for Aston?

Inch also claimed a biceps of 19-7/8 at a bodyweight of under 200 pounds. This is remarkable considering that for a period of about five years as a youngster in training he did not increase his bodyweight at all, and claimed to have slender wrists, which to fit the limiting ratio of 3:1 wrist to upper arms could not have taped more than 6.6", but in no photos I have seen of him did his wrists appear so small, nor did his hands appear to David Webster to be unusually small, as Inch liked to assert. He also claimed 15" forearms (measured straight, not goose-necked) and this would have been a ratio of the impossible size of 2.3 to 1 for forearms. So, if you have 7" wrists, to match the ratio that Inch claimed, would require 16.1", and 7.5" wrists need 17.25", measured non-goose- necked.

Remember the number of photos taken during those 'hundreds of times' that Inch had the 172 overhead, or was in the process of one-hand cleaning it? That number is zero. Of the thousands of audience members who through the years must have witnessed some of these successes, no one has a photo to offer? Not even Inch offered any photos of himself lifting it. There is a photo so described in an old issue of Strength & Health, but that bell is clearly not the Inch 172, but a plate loaded bell. Inch was a masterful businessman who knew how to market himself, so why no photos of the 172 overhead in one of his hands?

Hopefully, in the past few installments of Inch 101, we have presented enough evidence to demonstrate that Inch never cleaned and put overhead, with one hand, the 172. Indeed, when a photo explaining his technique to shoulder the bell is offered, he is shown using two hands in a continental, not a clean, with the bell resting on his rearward leaning torso.

Indeed when men like Kaz and Phil Pfister need to continental the bell to the shoulder instead on cleaning it, one suspects that Inch may not have quite had the cleaning power of these two mastiffs. Phil indicated this week that he cannot yet one hand clean his replica, but he plans some surprises at the next Arnold Classic in Columbus, Ohio, next year.

So, this year on Jun 22, Mark Henry was planning to try to clean and push-press, or clean and jerk, with one hand in either case, the 172, if his injured triceps would permit. I now present an email from Terry Todd of the U of Texas. I have added dates with brackets for clarity.

An email from Terry Todd dated Friday, June 21, 2002. This was the day before the Oldtimers dinner in Saddle Brook, New Jersey:

"Joe, "Just a note to let you know-because I think your work has earned you the right to be the first to know the complete details- that three weeks ago, [May 30] on Thursday at 4:50 PM, in the Varsity Weight Room at UT [University of Texas in Austin] , Mark Henry cleaned a replica of the Inch Dumbell with one hand. He didn't touch it with the other hand at any time during the lift and it was caught high on the shoulder.

"He had first tried to lift the Bell three weeks before [circa May 9?], after first cleaning a smaller bell I'd had made for him (made from two 8" long pieces of 6" bar stock joined by a 6" handle made from a piece of 2.5" bar stock) weighing 154 pounds. This was his first chance to lift the smaller bell, and it was still hot from having just been made at the machine shop. I didn't think he'd try the Inch that first day, but as he lifted the small one so easily I suggested that he make an attempt. So twice, he pulled it up, turned it over to his shoulder, but caught it so that it drifted away from his laterally. He was away for two weeks, [May 23?] then did the exact same thing again�warm up with regular dbs to 150, then lift the small one, then turn the big one over twice but fail to "fix" it. That day, however, I had Jan take a videotape so he could see what he was doing wrong,, which was to not step slightly forward with his right foot (he cleaned with his right hand) so as to get under the bell and "trap" it. When he saw the tapes I think he quickly understood what to do and a week later, [May 30] after another easy clean with the light bell he stepped forward and made the historic clean. Jan was in a meeting that day and so we have no photos or films, but we had two witnesses besides me. Mark was very happy. "He'd have been practicing much earlier, but about two weeks after the Arnold he partially tore the triceps on his right arm and so has been unable to do any sort of normal press or arm training. In fact, the doctors told him to lay off entirely for six weeks or so from all upper body training. But as he began to recover we learned that he could catch a light db in a clean without pain and so I suggested that he make an attempt to play catch- up and try to do what we'd been hoping to do�make an "official" attempt to clean an Inch replica at Vic's dinner. When Mark first hurt himself I was disappointed�both because he was hurt and because we'd spoken earlier about how he could practice with his Inch replica and maybe learn to clean it in time for Vic's gathering.

"Following his first clean, he was back two weeks or a bit less and made another attempt, but this time jammed his thumb with the small bell when it bounced back up and hit him as he dropped it to the platform after the clean. So we decided to get the bleeding stopped and wait for perhaps one more chance before the 22nd. [ June] That chance came this past Sunday,[June 16] when he made an easier clean with the Inch after his normal warm-up and a clean with the smaller bell. This time about ten people in the gym saw him, including Jan. So we have some confidence that he'll be able to make the clean in front of all the old heroes at the dinner. He weighed just a pound or two or three under 400 when he made these lifts, and he was 30 when he made the first and 31 when he made the second. So far I've kept the attempt more or less a secret, although I've had to tell a few people to get clearance to do the thing so it won't upset the program. So if you would don't alert the troops until it happens. I'll let you know how it goes. We're doing it this way in part as a way of thanking Vic for all his years of work.

"I wish Mark could have trained on the push press, but I've advised him not to put the bell overhead even if it feels light as it would be a shame and set him back in his training and ringwork if he re-injured the triceps. I told him that anyone who really knew lifting would know that the difficult thing about the Inch was that it would be very, very difficult (thought to be impossible by DPW) [David P. Willoughby] for anyone to clean with one hand but not all that hard to elevate overhead. I told him he'd have plenty of chances to put it up for reps down the line.

"I have to say it was a fine thing to see him clean it, especially the first time, and I wish you could have seen it, too. I might add that he says he can get a much better grip on the smaller bell because the handle is wide enough to allow him to get the whole hand down on the handle�something he can't do with the narrower Inch.

"T

"PS By the way, I really liked the photo you took of Mark lifting the Wheels�the one that ran with David's article about the Arnold. I'd very much like to have a copy, and I know Mark would, too."

Keep in mind when Thomas Inch claimed to be able to one hand clean and jerk the 172 pound challenge bell, his bodyweight was 210 pounds, so the bell was 82% of his bodyweight. I hasten to add that I do not believe Inch was ever able to perform this feat, but such was his claim, and further, that he was able to perform this feat, during his strength career, hundreds of times, while hundreds of other men who tried, all failed. [for Mark Henry, 82% of 400 pounds would be 328 pounds, or roughly the Inch replica plus that 154 pound warm-up bell combined!]

Inch weighed 210 circa 1909 when he was about 26 years old.

So in Saddle Brook, New Jersey on Saturday night June 23, 2002, with a camera crew from the World Wrestling Entertainment company (formerly WWF) standing by, and with about 250 people watching, Mark Henry came out, and with one hand, power cleaned (dipped very little) the Inch 172 replica and push-pressed it overhead. He did keep the bell overhead for a couple of seconds, though it did not appear to be stabilized and still, before he threw it down from his right hand. He also deadlifted the bell with his left hand and carried it a few feet to a table. In my opinion, this is the very first time that an Inch 172 has ever been one handed all the way by anyone. If Mark weighed about 400 pounds, then the bell represented 43% of his bodyweight (for comparison, a 200 pound man would need to succeed with an 86 lb replica, to have proportionate strength). And lest anyone pooh-pooh this comparison, keep in mind that weight classes have been a part of weightlifting for more than a century.

For the record, Mark's success came at 11:15 pm- thanks to 3Crusher of the grippage.com for the exact time.

Nonetheless, honor to Mark Henry for being the first man of any weight to conquer the Inch 172. Who will succeed next? Will a woman ever be able to join this group? Will anyone ever be able to clean and then jerk or push press a replica in each hand at the same time? Or to farmer's carry an Inch in each hand? John Wood has already grabbed a replica in each hand, off a table, pivoted, walked a few steps and held the bells for a total lapsed time of 45 seconds which his sister snapped some photos (see Iron History Gallery for two of those shots).

In May 1911, Inch's strength level had descended to a point where he could one hand clean, on a standard 1" bar, only 170 pounds; so logic demands that he could NOT have lifted 172 on a 2.38" bar! So somewhere between when he introduced the 172 in 1907, and four years later, whatever training regimen he was on was slowly zapping his reserve of power. His system was called Miniature Weightlifting. Perhaps Going Backwards in Progress would have been more apt. Of course, Inch was telling people that an 8 pound (yes, eight pound) dumbell was heavy enough for training.

If you have any questions regarding the above text, please use the comment button or contact me through the Iron History Q+A section mentioned in the intro page to this column. You may well have read articles which conflict with what I have presented; I suspect I have also read those same articles, and considering who wrote which articles, and who had gains to be made, and by comparing strength levels of various strongmen in other lifts, the above are my [temporary?] conclusions.

Now some brief notes:

Jul 5, 1862 Franz 'Cyclops'Bienkowski; died 1922. Eugen Sandow's career was was jumper-cabled after he defeated Cyclops on Oct 29 and four days later defeated Charles Sampson on Nov 2, 1889. Cyclops & Sampson at the time was performing in London at the Royal Aquarium, and were offering significant prized for anyone who could defeat them. Enter Sandow, exit Sandow with the awards.

Cyclops was nicknamed the coin breaker or the money broker because he was reputed to be able to break coins, and William A. Pullum wrote of this in H&S Sep 16, 1954.

Jul 5, 1912 John Terpak born; died Jun 1, 1993

Jul 5, 1955 Paul Anderson Day in Georgia as proclaimed by Governor Marvin Griffin IM 15:2 p 40

Jul 5, 1968 Michelle Andrea born

Jul 6, 1972 Lee Priest born

Jul 6, 1991 Bryan Frederick measured Lee Haney's unpumped upper arm flexed at 20.5" in Dixon, Illinois at 4:30pm. Haney weighed approx 260 and was ten weeks out from the Olympia.

Jul 7, 1950 Jack Walsh claimed backlift 4,235 lbs IM 10:4 p 19

Jul 8, 1837 Donald Dinnie born; died Apr 2, 1916

Jul 8, 1917 Jules Bacon born, so turns 85 today!

Jul 8, 2001 Walter Good died at age 93

Jul 9, 1910 Hermann Goerner lifted a 595.75 lb barrel and placed it on a table

Jul 9, 1915 Frances Hise (Joe's sister) born; died May 18, 1988

Jul 9, 1976 Amanda 'Mandy' Blank born

Jul 9, 1983 George Greenwood died; in H&S in Oct 1946 he debuted a series of articles titles 'Going All Out for Physical Excellence'. H&S at that time was a monthly magazine and his nine part series on bodybuilding continued into 1947 when H&S began being published more often.

His series "Bodybuilder's Forum' began on Jul 31, 1947 (two weeks after the other series ended) and Greenwood penned the column thru Feb 5, 1953, then two weeks later Oscar Heindenstam took it over.

In the early 1970s Greenwood co-wrote some editorials with Heidenstam, and in the late 1970s offered a couple of articles for Muscle Mag International's 'Annuals'-this is an idea, by the way, whose time has re-emerged, in my opinion. We need an 'annual' to recap the year's events. From Dec 1963 thru Mar 1968 George wrote some for Ironman, and from Jun 1967 thru Jan 1977 he contributed to Muscular Development. He also wrote in MTI from Nov 1975 thru Sep 1981.

Jul 11, 1969 George Jowett died; born Dec 23, 1891

Jul 12, 1941 Warren Lincoln Travis' final show at Coney Island; he suffered a heart attack in the early morning hours of Jul 13 and died at 12:30am on Jul 13. Born Feb 21, 1876

Jul 14, 1941 Pudgy Eville and Les Stockton wedding. They are still married. Think it will last? It has lasted today for 61 years!

Jul 16, 1946 Alan Stephen and Frank Kay appeared on the Bob Wright TV show called "Human Interest in the News" on WKBK, and this was the first instance in which posing and weightlifting were televised in America.

Jul 16, 1965 Bill Pearl posed in Durbin, South Africa

Jul 16, 1966 Kevin Levrone born in Baltimore

Jul 16, 1977 Dave Johns won Mr. America

Jul 16, 1999 Charles P. Roman died

Jul 17, 1946 Meinhard Schwarzenegger born; died May 20, 1971

Jul 18, 1941 George Redpath opened his gym on Manchester Ave in L.A.

Jul 18, 1953 Tommy Kono won Mr. Sacramento

Jul 18, 1985 Bob Hoffman died in York Hospital; born Nov 9, 1898. Bob was the moving force in American weightlifting basically his entire adult life. He wrote frequently for his two magazines, Strength and Health, and Muscular Development. Here are some of his pen names and a sample of where he used each:

D.A.Downing S&H Jan 1936, and Apr 1973 (yes). I understand there was an actual man with this name who gave Bob permission to write using the name.

Alan Carse S&G Apr 1935, Jan 1949*
Joe Mar S&G Jun 1935
T.O.Morrow S&H Jan 1935 p 13
*I asked Mike Dietz, an official at York Barbell, if Hoffman used the name Alan Carse
and Dietz said no, but I believe Hoffman did write under that name.

S&H began in Dec 1932, MD began Jan 1964.

Bob's column Your Training Problems' began in S&H Jan 1940 and ended in Sep 1948 by Bob but Grimek took it over in Oct 1948.

In MD Bob's column 'Interesting Facts About Nutrition' ran Apr 1965 to Sep/Oct 1975 and became 'True Facts About Nutrition with the Nov/Dec 1975 issue but was soon re- titled 'Facts About Nutrition' starting May/Jun 1976 which it remained thru Oct 1985.

In 1918 when Bob came out of the army he was 6'3" and weighed 170. He married Rosetta in the fall of 1926 in Wilkinsburg, a suburb of Pittsburgh at the Ross Avenue Methodist Church. I once called there and chatted with someone.

Of course, the Weider/Hoffman wars began when Joe's magazines started making an impact on Hoffman's income. Hoffman had long ignored bodybuilding, but 'owned' weightlifting, so Joe focused on bodybuilding. The rest, as they say, is histrionics!

The magazines printed obits about Bob when he died- except S&H which simply presented letters from readers. Here is a list of obits for your refs: MuscleMag Int Oct 1985; Ironman Nov 1985; Muscular Development Nov 1985; Muscle Training Illustrated Jan 1986, and Powerlifting USA Sep 1985

See you Jul 19th when we will be back with a full column.

Replies: Comments(4)


Carl,
Wonderful to hear from you; it has been years since the old MuscleSearch days. I trust you are well, and how wonderful that you saw history made with the Inch replica!

Posted by Joe Roark @ 07/12/2002 05:48 PM CST

Hi Joe, I was at the dinner and saw Mark lift the replica Inch bell. It was a very impressive and markedly historic event for me You may recall I have done a lot of dumbell liftin(175 side press&205 bent press),so I can really apreciate this feat of strength.Thanks for all your efforts to keep the truth. Carl

Posted by
Carl Linich @ 07/12/2002 08:39 AM CST

Bill Hinbern of Michigan offers reprints of many of the classics.
See his ad in Muscle & Fitness in the Aug 2002 issue page 264.
Or, bill@superstrenghtbooks.com
He offers a catalog.
Perhaps ebay might yield some of
the other books that he does not offer.
Bill and I have been in touched for
about 20 years (we were both teens...)

Posted by Joe Roark @ 07/07/2002 11:06 AM CST

Following on the heels of Mark Henrys success with the Inch, do you think the millennium dumbbell could be far down the line? And also I really enjoy reading your column, but have not yet been able to acquire any of the books you suggest yet. So everytime I read a name I try to find something on the internet about them. I get zero results unless it's some well name bodybuilder. Do you know of any sites that offer any information on old time strongmen or more information like what you provide?

Posted by Garett @ 07/07/2002 10:57 AM CST