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News: On in the Q&A section, there is now an Iron History Q&A, moderated by yours truly. If you have a question that is not relevant to the material presented in this column, please ask it there. And be patient. I have limited free time.

There is a link to the Q+A page on the intro text, where there is also a link to the Iron History Gallery, where we have recently posted photos of John Wood holding an Inch replica in each hand, the high school senior photo of Joseph Curtis Hise, the wooden sculpture of Otis Fudpucker, and a photo of John Dawe with Hermann Goerner at the time when the book Goerner the Mighty was published.

I will be in and out of the International Corporate Offices of Iron History in the next few days because of pressing business. And I will be rebuilding my computer system so I'll be off line. (that last part is an inside joke for the editor at cyberpump, without whose wonderful skills this column could not be accessed). All I can say is that thousands of gallons of gasoline will be saved when the staff doesn't have to drive to our Iron History Office complex.

Anyway, I have found it necessary to trim this week's column and perhaps not present a column on Jul 5, or perhaps an abbreviated edition. I'll do what I can, but sometimes life calls us to other functions. So this column may well take us to the half-way point of the offering, which, as we have mentioned before is planned to end Dec 20th. Our original intent was to give a chronological overview for one year. Frankly, I'm not sure what the future of this column is, but that decision is for December.

If you have any comments pro or con on the direction this column should take for the next six months, please use the comment button that is available. Sorry, no cash refunds are available.

Hopefully, we'll be back on track Jul 19th.

Jun 21, 1947 (and Jun 20) Jr. Nationals weightlifting in Dallas, and the Jr. Mr. America was won by Edward Simons

Jun 21, 1958 Tom Sansone wins the AAU Mr. America in Los Angeles on the same day that Rachel McLish is being born in Harlingen, Texas. Tom died Oct 16, 1974 at age 39; Rachel celebrates her 44th birthday today! Rick Wayne asked in Muscle Builder Sep 1977, whether steroids killed Tom. I do not know, but if that was the cause then he has the 'distinction' of being the first AAU Mr. America to so die. Five years after taking the America, he won the Amateur NABBA Universe in London. Rachel was the inaugural winner of the Miss Olympia in 1980, and won again in 1982.

Jun 22, 1910 Ray Van Cleef born; died May 26, 1964. RVC as he was sometimes called, began writing for Strength & Health in the Apr 1934 issue, with a column called Gym Gems. He contributed to S&H until 1950. In 1951 he took over the Health Studios at 1455 West Carlos, San Jose, 26, California, on Aug 1.

Resumed with S&H in 1954, and stayed until his death. One of his other columns was Strongmen the World Over which ran Mar 1948 until Sep 1964 (though he had passed away in May while working in his back yard).

RVC also wrote for Weider's Your Physique in the early 1940s with a column titled Your Health Questions Answered. This became Your Health Questions Solved in the Apr 1945 issue.

He enriched the pages of H&S, The Superman, Ironman, Vim, The Chicago Bodybuilder, and when Hoffman's new mag Muscular Development was launched the year RVC died, he supplied only one article for it, Feb 1964- a piece about Roland Essmaker.

Ray joined the H&S League on Dec 24, 1929 and was number 81,280. His two daughters in 1964 were ages 9 and 11. Does anyone reading this know where they are now?

Jun 22, 1916 John Young Smith bent pressed 203.5 with each hand. Smith has the distinction of being, to my knowledge, the only man who presented Arthur Saxon with a dumbell that he was unable to lift. I discount Inch's assertions that Arthur was unable to even deadlift the 172 Inch bell, even though Inch claimed to have one hand cleaned it and put it overhead 'hundreds' of times. This strains credulity as well as history because there is no evidence that Inch had a stronger grip than Saxon when it came to thick handled bells, and certainly Inch was not stronger than Saxon in overhead, one handed, lifting.

Indeed, in my view, based on long, detailed study, I do not believe that Inch EVER lifted, one hand all the way, clean, his 172 overhead. He, as Aston asserted, switched bells, using one of the three other, identical, but lighters ones. According to Inch, the Saxon brothers had a replica of his 172 made, took it on tour after they had mastered it and presented it as their challenge bell. Then they returned to England (where, by the way, the 172 lived all the time Inch was alive, never leaving Great Britain) and tried their hand at Inch's 172 only to completely fail again. Nice fiction.

Back to J.Y. Smith who in 1926 at age 60 won the title Strongest Man in New England. He was able to right hand bent press 275.5 lbs- a weight that quite literally Arthur Saxon would play with in the bent press. JYS also was able to manage in the one hand deadlift, 425 left and 450 right. Keep in mind that Smith's bodyweight topped at about 170.

Anyway, the thick handled dumbell of 225 lbs which Smith could clean one handed and then bent press, was the bell that thwarted Saxon. Willoughby describes this incident in Ironman Sep 1976. Saxon was in America in 1910-1911 working for Ringling and he tried to lift Smith's bell, but could not shoulder it (clean it). Willoughby does not say that Saxon failed to get the bell off the floor! So, if Saxon were able to get the thick-handled, 225 lb dumbell at least partially toward his shoulder, why would we assume that he was unable to get the 172 Inch bell off the floor? Of course, 'thick-handled' is descriptive in a very limited way- indicating only that the bar was thicker than a standard bar. But with Smith's incredible hand strength we can assume it was quite thick. Smith was able to hang from a bar with his 160-170 lb bodyweight while holding 140 lbs in his other hand. Try hanging from a bar with one hand while holding in the other about 80-85% of your bodyweight!

Perhaps someone reading this can clarify a point for me. Smith is also credited with taking a 200 pound bag of cement- one in each hand and slinging them onto a truck. One assumes he pinched the corner of the sacks. Were 200 pound bags of cement manufactured in his day?

Jun 22, 1926 Jack Delinger born; died Dec 28, 1992. Jack married Loretta Soper on Dec 18, 1949, and their only son John (named after John Grimek) came along in 1950. Jack's sister Ruth died circa 1980, his only brother Albert died in 1991, and then in 1992 on Nov 23, Jack and Loretta underwent what no parent wants to face- the death of a child when John died of a cerebral hemorrhage

Jack had started life without a father- his died before Jack's birth. At age 10 a blood transfusion from Albert helped the rheumatic fever in Jack to leave.

Jack began weight training in 1944 at age 19, training at Ed Yarick's gym in Oakland, California. Yarick referred to him as his 'star pupil'. Jack and Ed would train together in the early mornings before the doors were open to other customers. Soon the 5'6" Delinger had gained 32 pounds. In some ways, Delinger was a natural- being able to perform a one arm chin BEFORE beginning weight training. And, Grimek, wrote that Delinger was able to perform a crucifix on the rings the first time he ever tried it!

Delinger became Mr. America 1949, for which he trained with Pepper Gomez in York, Pennsylvania.

At the 1948 Mr. America, a friend advised Jack to 'deliberately stride' to the posing area, and Jack felt that this silly strut may have cost him the title, which went to George Eiferman.

Jun 22, 1929 The Good brothers purchased the huge Travis dumbell. This bell now is on public display at a spring water company in Adamstown, PA. And if you stop by to see it and get some photos, keep driving a few more miles to the York Barbell Hall of Fame where Travis' huge dumbell is on display.

Jun 22, 1946 Johnny Dees was crowned Mr. South West, edging John Gowan by one point. There was also a Preston Dees who competed in that era, so when the results of the 1949 AAU Mr. America are given and some of the names of men who did not place in the higher positions, are identified by last name only, in this case as 'Dees'- which Dees, Johnny or Preston? Dees are the details that drive a researcher bonkers!

Jun 22, 1975 Dale Adrian won Mr. America in Culver City, California. He had won Mr. Southern California in 1973, then Mr. California on May 3, 1975, just weeks before taking the Mr. A. The next year on Aug 28 he won Mr. Pacific International, short class. I have not been able to confirm this. But have seen references to him winning the 1970 Mr. San Pedro, 1971 Mr. San Fernando Valley, and 1972 Mr. Venice Beach and the Mr. Hercules. There are some other titles ascribed to him. Anybody know where he is these days?

Jun 23, 1955 Debbie Boostrom was born in Peoria, Illinois and became Playboy's Playmate of the Month for Aug 1981, but the relevance here is that in Dec 1982 she was on the cover of Muscle & Fitness magazine.

Jun 23, 1957 Ron Lacy, in Daytona Beach, raced to victory at the Mr. America. It was his fourth try at the title. The previous year he had placed 2nd to Ray Schaefer.

Jun 23, 1966 In those days the 'Outstanding Bodybuilder of the Year' award was given-at least this once, and it went to Gable Paul Boudreaux

Jun 24, 1939 Jim Halliday, great British weightlifter, married on this day.

Jun 24, 1939 Denis Reno born. Denis is one of the nicer folks you will encounter in the iron game, and he has published his Weightlifter's Newsletter for many years. It has undergone some name changes: New England Weightlifting-Officials Newsletter, then, New England Association AAU Weightlifters' Newsletter and some others, but since the Feb 2, 1980 issue has been what it now is, Denis Reno's Weightlifting Newsletter.

It is a 'paper of record'. Many contest results in Olympic weightlifting are presented, though my favorite section is the 'Editor's Ego' where he offers bits of news. Denis has a long tradition of losing money on this publication, which tells you where his heart is as he continues his Love's Labors Lost. Having published my own newsletter for a few years and having done my own good job of losing money, I appreciate what Denis is sacrificing for the good of lifting.

Denis is offering a sample copy of his newsletter free. Write to Denis Reno, 30 Cambria Road, West Newton, MA 02465.

Denis said free, but it would be a nice gesture to slip a $1 bill in your letter to help him cover mailing, don't you think?

Happy birthday Denis. Sorry, I forgot I am writing to a 63 year-old, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Jun 24, 1944 Alan Calvert died; was born in 1865. In 1902 he began making Milo barbells, and in 1918 David Willoughby became a customer. Alan's mag STRENGTH which began in 1914 was sent free to his own pupils.

In 1911 he wrote 'The Truth about Weightlifting'.

From 1919 to 1924 he severed connections with Milo and with Strength, and in 1924 he published the book SUPER STRENGTH.

He later adopted the idea of 'The Doctrine of Ultimate Contractions' in the late 1930s and this idea was that weight training could be bypassed by flexing and cramping the target muscle to become a superman.

Jun 24, 1961 Ray Routledge won Mr. America in Santa Monica. I have no articles by or about Routledge until after he won the Mr. A. Usually there are articles leading up to such a major win, but Ray must have come up on the scene by surprise? No, actually he had been competing since at least Oct 17, 1953 when he placed 3rd at the Jr. Mr. California. His first win (don't hold me to this) may have been Feb 6, 1954 at the Mr. Southern California. Differing reports put his next win at either Apr 14 or Apr 21, 1956 for the Mr. South.

Ray's first foray into the physique fold of Mr. America was 1958 when he placed 8th. Then imagine his frustration when in 1959 and in 1960 he landed in second place before gaining the title in 1961!

Jun 24, 1969 Toni Bolla born. If you have any of the now defunct issues of Strong & Shapely, she was profiled in Oct 1997.

Jun 25, 1865 Bernard Leitner, known as the chain breaker, was born. Without going into details, I frankly doubt many of the chain breaking claims, particularly those involving bursting a chain that is wound around the upper arm, or the chest. Many of the chains used in such farces were weakened or had known the feel of a saw's teeth, then patched to conceal the corruption.

Willoughby credits Leitner with the ability to break a jack chain (of what strength?) by arm or chest expansion.

I have read explanations of how some of these chain breaking feats were 'prepared' and while there may be some men who can separate/break some strengths of jack chain by pulling on them, it seems improbable if not impossible that flexing flesh pushing against hard metal would do the 'trick'.

Certainly Leitner's other strength abilities, such as a repetition bent press (from the shoulder) with 143 lbs would not indicate superhuman strength. Another questionable link in this computer age. Bernard died in 1959.

Jun 25, 1949 The 'Mr. 1949' contest was held in connection with the American Professional Strongman Championships at the Embassy Auditorium in Los Angeles. Winning $350 plus a trophy was Armand Tanny, with Walt Baptiste in second and Bob McCune in third. Pudgy Stockton demonstrated some exercises, and all agreed her form was just fine. Leo Stern and Bob McCune (both still living) topped off at 371 lbs in the bench press, but the nod went to Bob because it was said Leo arched his back. After the bench contest Leo and Bob were helped out of their three ply bench shirts, and four feet of elbow wrapping. [that's a joke].

Mac Batchelor was on hand and the backlift he performed was with 2500 lbs. Jack Delinger guest posed after the 1949 contest.

Jun 25, 1951 Jan Dellinger born. There are a few people in the iron sport that I am overjoyed to have met, and Jan is most assuredly one of them. There is no greater compliment to give a person that to say the person is trustworthy, and there is no easier person about whom that can be said than Jan.

A very long time employee of the York Barbell Company, Jan is now working elsewhere, while, in my opinion the company would be much more on track with his continued assistance. He KNEW the company, he KNEW the product line, he KNEW history. He still knows all that, but stop by York and ask to speak to someone else who is his equal. Good luck.

Early morning coffee chats with John Grimek were a daily ritual for many years. John would tell stories and Jan would listen. Talk about sitting at the feet of a master! On many occasions I have encouraged Jan to write a book and include some of his memories, and though he has not ruled it out as quickly as did the editors at Flex did when I proposed a cover shot of me (kidding), he has not yet begun it, and perhaps never will.

We pay people at bodybuilding contests to guest pose. Perhaps someday we will evolve enough to pay people such as Jan to simply sit and talk.

He has a piece in the Jul/Aug 2002 issue of Hard Gainer called 'A Buyer's Guide to Bars and Plates" which I began reading without noticing that he was the author. After thinking to myself, 'this is good stuff' I looked back to see who the author was, and was pleasantly surprised to see Jan's name. Jan was for awhile, when you could pull him and Grimek out of the coffee room at York, the editor for Muscular Development- back in the days when it was a bodybuilding magazine. In retrospect, those were good years at MD, which now has taken a turn in another direction.

The last time I was in York Jan took me to the graves of Terpak, Hoffman, and Grimek- the latter being in a different cemetery than the former two.

In a sport where some people's content is external, it is overwhelmingly refreshing to know that the sport has also been visited by sterling examples of inner quality, such as Jan Dellinger, who today becomes 51 years of wonderful age. Happy Birthday, my friend, it is my honor to know you.

Jun 26, 1907 LeBreton two dumbbells clean and jerk totaling 277.75 lbs

Jun 26, 1936 Guy Mierczuk born. Placed 3rd in the FIHC Mr. Universe in 1961 and 9th in 1963.

Jun 26, 1947 Steve Reeves arrived in Chicago for the Mr. America contest. I have a friend who lives in Danville, Illinois who still recalls seeing Reeves walk down the street in Chicago in those days.

Jun 26, 1953 Prof. Desbonnet died

Jun 26, 1954 Dick DuBois won Mr. America on his second attempt, having placed 2nd the previous year.

Jun 26, 1955 Tom Platz, Mr. Legs, was born

Jun 26, 1992 'Nature Boy Buddy Rogers' died (real name Herman Rohde)

Jun 26, 1999 Jean-Claude Van Damme remarries Gladys Portugues (first marriage ended in 1993)

Jun 27, 1929 Harold Wood, whose occupation was 'rat-catcher', on this day, performed a pullover and press on back with 313.25 lbs. at the Pier Hotel, Chelsea.[England]

Jun 27, 1943 Jules Bacon won Mr. America

Jun 27, 1959 Bob Hasse married Lily Koonz

Jun 27, 1975 Serge Reding died; born Dec 23, 1941

Jun 27, 1975 Arax died

Jun 28, 1882 Maxick born; died May 10, 1961 at 10 pm

Jun 28, 1942 Frank Zane born. Mr. Olympia for 1977, 1978, 1979, and the first man to receive the Sandow statue in connection with the title.

Jun 28, 1943 Tom Lincir born. Tom owns Ivanko Barbell, and is quite knowledgeable about the history of exercise equipment. He traces patents and other documentation about such items. He manufactured the Apollon railcar wheels replica that was used at the Arnold Classic Strongman competition 2002.

Jun 28, 1952 Jim Park wins Mr. America in New York City

Jun 28, 1954 Ernest Edwin Coffin died; born Feb 19, 1898

Jun 29, 1849 Robert Jeffries Roberts born; died 1920

Jun 29, 1929 Pete George born

Jun 29, 1947 Steve Reeves won Mr. America. To demonstrate how difficult it is to get the facts out of old contests, here are some notes on this contest:

7th place Ed Semon/Ed Simon [Chicago Bodybuilder mag said Simon]
8th place won by Alex Kigas [but Muscle Builder reported he was 6th]
9th place won by Keevil Daly according to Ironman, but 8th place according to Muscle Power magazine]
24th place was Gene Bohavey [probably as Ironman asserts Gene Bohaty]
30th place was Mario Andskey with 51 points (Ironman) or 52 pts (Chi Bodybuilder)
32nd place was either John Ford or John Fuller
and there were some other variations.

At any rate, after a tie for first place, the nod went to Reeves who also won best back, while Eric Pedersen, also with 72 points settled in second place as well as winning best arms and most muscular.

I have recently been in touch with a man who asserts he is Pedersen's son.

Jun 29, 1956 The wedding day of Arthur Miller to Marilyn Monroe and the death day for Hermann Goerner.

Jun 30, 1920 Carl Hempe born in Easton, PA. Now living in California. Based on some notes from a phone conversation of Nov 22, 2000, here are some details: Carl started training in 1937- first by exercising on monkey vines in the Delaware River, until a friend named Wes Thompson suggested that Carl switch to weights- which Carl had never heard of! At age 82 he was still training with his original barbell!

Hempe became a chiropractor and lifted competitively in the 1940s and 1950s though for one contest he was mis-listed as Dave Brinker. He managed a 260 press, a 255 snatch, and a C&J of 320.

He also worked for Litton, and then had his own private investigation business. On the current state of bodybuilding, Mt. Hempe offers:

"I think that they're going at it the wrong way now. Too much equipment they have to use now. They don't use the old system. It would be better to use just barbells and dumbbells. Try the old ways. It has become very commercial, it is simpler than they tryto make it now".

In 1997 Mr. Hempe suffered a stroke and lost the ability to speak for a brief time. One of the things he told me with his restored voice was that when he was competing, 'girls tore all my clothes off at first'- oh don't I know what you mean Carl!

On Jun 10, 1939 he won the medium class at America's Best Physique.

On Nov 18, 1939 he placed second to John Grimek in the medium class at the York Perfect Man contest

Hempe later became a minister having studied at Washington Missionary College, and served first in that capacity in Richmond, VA.

Jun 30, 1945 York Barbell Picnic

Jun 30, 1954 Hector Decarie died; born Mar 27, 1880

Jun 30, 1989 George Kirkley died; born Apr 27, 1909

Jul 1, 1899 Lester Reeves, Steve Reeves father, was born

Jul 1, 1963 Powerlifting from this date forward was no longer under the control of the weightlifting committee.

Jul 2, 1844 Prof. Louis Attila [Durlacher] born; died Mar 15,21,24, 1924

Jul 2, 1891 Cyr backlift 3,192 lbs; Sebastian Miller backlift 2,400

Jul 2, 1911 BAWB 4-50 p 20

Jul 2, 1927 Chuck Sipes parents' wedding day (William & Evelyn). I spoke the other day to Chuck's brother, who also is named William. A man had called the offices of Flex magazine and wished to contact the family regarding some photo negatives he has of Chuck, so I gave William the man's phone number and left the rest to him.

Jul 2, 1984 Oscar State died; born Apr 26, 1911

Jul 3, 1999 Andy Jackson died; born Aug 27, 1905

Jul 4, 1910 Martin 'Farmer' Burns last fight. Reno, Nevada age 50.

Jul 4, 1919 Roland Essmaker's mother passed away. Notice the next item:

Jul 4, 1939 Roland Essmaker became the first AAU Mr. America, on the 20th anniversary of his mother's passing, and on this same day, Joe Abbenda was born. He would become the 1962 Mr. America.

Jul 4 or 14, 1941 Sergio Oliva born. Sergio's unfortunate insertion timewise between Larry Scott and Arnold Schwarzenegger cut short his glory days. But Sergio, in the eyes of many, was cheated out of the 1972 Mr. Olympia.

Jul 4, 1952 Beverly Jocher wins Miss Muscle Beach

Jul 4, 1989 Aline Reeves (Steve's wife) suffered a heart attack and passed away Jul 24.

Jul 4, 1999 Claude R. Barnholth died.

INCH 101 part 13:

During 1922, Inch would reach the half-way point of his life.

Keep in mind that Inch had 'retired' the 172 circa 1931, but that he apparently would reinvigorate it for World War II appearances.

Jun 23, 1934 in H&S Inch wrote 'New Methods for Full Fitness [boxing]"

Jun 24, 1939 p 938 a paragraph about his book on neurasthenia being reprinted

Jun 24, 1939 p 949 'Weights Better than Strands [cables] For All-Round Strength Test"

Jun 26, 1952 ad for his new book 'A New Lease on Life'

Jun 30, 1937 Albert Henry Hengler (connected to the Hengler's Circus) died; was born Aug 10, 1862.[You'll recall that it was at Hengler's Circus where Inch and Saxon left the 172 to see if Padoubny or other performers could lift it.]

In the Jun 30, 1960 issue of Health & Strength, Inch wrote: 'Why the Front Squat was Invented". Part of the article is devoted to how Inch helped W.L. Carquest train:

"Strange as it may sound now, the 'deep knees bend' with a barbell was very little practiced then, and never with the weight held in front of the chest. I decided to advise Carquest to practice 'squatting' with the barbell held in front, pointing out that not only would it help him in the finish of his favorite lift [bent press] but that he might possibly find that he could 'pull in' more 'two hands clean' that way in the long run."

"Carquest's legs were quite good before he started this special type of training on my advice, but they naturally became better than they had been previously as a result of it."

"For it was only this greater strength that finally made a certainty of that staggering 222 lb at the London W/L Club.

"It may be interesting to lifting readers to learn that Carquest was the only man (in Britain, at least) using the squat for 'cleaning' at the period in lifting history I am now writing about. Indeed, it is only in the modern era of Olympic lifting that it has come to be adopted universally to quite a considerable degree."

"To bodybuilders of today who include the D.K.B. (or squat) so much in their training, as a rule, I would advise that, as the object of doing it is to develop better looking legs, they do it with the barbell held in front at the chest quite as much as in the style where the bell is carried across the shoulders behind the neck.

"When done exclusively in the latter fashion, there comes a time when the poundage used tends to make the buttocks lift, the body then be acutely inclined forward. This attitude is never to be recommended! It doesn't help development of the legs- consequently fails to strengthen them. It promotes bad bodily posture. And most important of all- the attitude being one of obviously unbalanced stress- it predisposes to injury".

Also in this issue on page 44 there was a letter of praise from P. Lloyd indicating how please Lloyd was that Inch had been appointed H&S President. Then two pages later, Inch, as President writes a message to readers appealing for more female participation (and acceptance of females in the League's activities): "Bearing in mind the tremendous interest created by Margaret Stannett at the last Scala [Theatre] show, obviously it would arouse enthusiasm if this remarkable lady lifter headed the team."

As an aside, Stannett had begun writing for H&S in 1959 with a piece titled, 'The Fascination of Scientific Weightlifting' in Jun, and then in Aug 'The Real Essence of Weightlifting'. She demonstrated the dumbell swing at the 1959 Mr.Universe contest, and she made a similar appearance on Apr 9, 1960 at the Mr/Miss Britain, and in H&S Mar 24, 1960 p 28 shows how to perform the bent press- one of the rare photos of a woman performing this lift.

Matters had progressed massively since a few decades before when women were disparaged from participating.

Roark Reference List #13
Leo Gaudreau's Articles in Your Physique magazine (con't)
Oct 1947 p 24 Louis Cyr part 3
Oct 1947 p 32 Little lessons in anatomy #11 forearm part 2
Nov 1947 p 28 Louis Cyr part 4
Nov 1947 p 33 Anatomy simplified: serratus magnus
Dec 1947 p 22 Is calf development your problem?
Dec 1947 p 32 Anatomy simplified
Jan 1948 p 30 Louis Cyr part 5 lifts and measurements
Feb 1948 p 22 The amazing Charles Rigoulot
Mar 1948 p 26 Charles Rigoulot
Jun 1948 p 11 Soviet weightlifters and weightlifting
Sep 1948 p 7 The amazing Edna 'Connie' Rivers
Oct 1948 p 10 Abe Goldberg
Feb 1949 p 10 Alan Stephan IFBB Mr. America 1949
Feb 1949 p 30 Round the world with weightlifters
Mar 1949 p 24 Round the world with weightlifters
Apr 1949 p 25 Round the world with weightlifters
May 1949 p 24 Round the world with weightlifters
Jun 1949 p 28 Round the world ith weightlifters
Aug 1949 p 29 Round the world with weightlifters
Sep 1949 p 24 Round the world with weightlifters
Oct 1949 p 20 Hermann and Kurt Saxon
Oct 1949 p 28 Round the world ith weightlifters
Nov 1949 p 28 The original Saxons
Jun 1950 p 6 How the Saxons trained for the bent press- co author by Kurt Saxon
Jul 1950 p 6 The mighty Goerner
Oct 1950 p 17 Khadr El Touni
Jan 1952 p 23 The Kind of Gripping Power: Vansittart (photo of Gaudreau is shown)
Jun 1952 p 16 Batta the Great

See you July 5th maybe or Jul 19th for sure.

Replies: Comments(2)

Source was Willoughby in Ironman Oct 1962 p 27, which presents the dates and poundages I reported.

Posted by Joe Roark @ 06/30/2002 04:54 AM CST

Dear Joe,
sorry for try to split hairs again. In "Allgemeine Sport Zeitung" of Vienna, Austria, issue of 29 June 1907 pp. 801-802, there's a report about Fran´┐Żois Le Breton's performance. The report refers to 8 June. Le Breton lifted 65.5 kilos with right and 60.5 kilos with left hand, correct clean and jerk. By the way, Austrian review oppose that Steinbach on 19 September 1905 lifted a total of 152 kilos in same exercise, but, however, in two times to breast before jerk, so called continental jerk. Later, on 12 July, Le Breton swung with right hand 90.5 kilos.
Then history rely upon sources. What is your source, as usually ?
Thanks and ciao
Gherardo Bonini

Posted by
Gherardo Bonini @ 06/24/2002 12:43 AM CST