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Good News/Bad News: If you enjoy this column, bad news. If you do not care for the column, first of all why are you reading this, but good news for you: Hence, Iron History will appear on Cyberpump on every first and third Friday of the month. TheEditor had told me from the beginning that if a weekly column proved too time consuming, then a monthly column or some other frequency would be acceptable. It has reached that point.

Please keep in mind that our purpose is to whet, not sate, your thirst for detail. I am aware that some persons read this column with an eye to finding mistakes- such persons are in luck because there have been, and will be, some, just as would be the case if I awaited your column and proofed it. Nonetheless, I welcome any corrections and clarifications you offer. And in this vein, let me suggest to those of you who may be printing these offerings, perhaps printing on Friday may not include any corrections or helpful additions others may send in via the comment button.

So, even though demand for Iron History tee shirts has caused a shortage of cotton at several mills, I find it necessary to change the column frequency. Hopefully, you'll keep us in mind twice a month. The next installment will appear Friday April 19, 2002, which means that events that happened Apr 12-18th in history will be skipped for now. The next installment will cover Apr 19 thru May 2, thence we will be back on track.

Apr 5, 1918 Juan Ferrero born in Spain in Puente-Almuhey. In 1925 his family moved to France. Ten years later he began weight training. In 1948 Juan attended the 'Plus Del Athlete De France' competition in Paris and saw Steve Reeves in person. Juan adopted the American system of training by increasing his weights and lowering his reps, and after four years of this intensified regime, on Jul 12, 1952 at age 34 Juan was in England to be declared the Professional NABBA Mr. Universe. This, after two attempts in the NABBA amateur division yielded two victories, a class win in 1951 and his overall win the year before. David Chapman in Ironman Nov 1991 reported that Ferrero was killed when a car crash sent a barbell plate flying through the interior of his car. Health & Strength magazine presented the last photo taken of Ferrero in its Aug 14, 1958 issue.

Apr 5, 1940 Nineteen year old John Davis bent pressed the 209 lb Rolandow solid dumbbell. By this time Davis had competed in the 1938 World Weightlifting Championships, and had been measured by George Weaver in June 1938 yielding: 5'8.5" 185 lbs wrist 7.4 forearm 13.4 biceps 15.9 neck 16 shoulder width 19.9 chest 45 waist 31.6 thigh 24.5 calf 15.7 and ankle 9.2. Davis won the Sr. Nationls 1940, and from 1938 until 1953 never lost a weightlifting contest.

David Horne, currently having some of the strongest hands in the world may look askance at the 555 pound one hand pinch grip attributed to Davis in S&H mag May 1954. The amount, minus the typo, turned out to be 50 pounds.

Davis cleaned and jerked the Apollon railcar wheels even though his hand length was 7.1" compared to Apollon's at 9"- the axle of the wheels was approx. 2" in diameter, or 6.06" in circumference. So Davis was using a bar circumference one inch smaller than his hand length, whereas Apollon was using the same bar which was three inches smaller in circumference than his hand size.

Apr 5, 1945 A letter to Leo Gaudreau from Kurt Saxon left Leo bewildered regarding any depth of relationship between Kurt and Hermann Goerner: "Please', Kurt wrote, 'what has become of my dear great little friend, Pierre Gasnier? Is he still alive? And where does this Hermann Goerner live?" Among other things, Hermann's question reveals the poor state of inter-communicative affairs in the iron community in those days, because Gasnier had died in 1923. Also bewildering is the fact that Kurt, eight years after writing this letter to Leo, wrote an article for Strength & Health magazine remembering when Hermann Goerner had failed to reproduce ANY of his famed feats. There is more detail in Gaudreau's Vol 2 of Anvils, Horseshoes and Cannons, and perhaps Kurt was being coy in asking where 'this Hermann Goerner' lived, because they seemed to be well known to each other as Leo explains.

Apr 5, 1958 Cammie Lusko born. In 1980 Cammie was voted by the knowledgeable readers of WASP magazine as the best female bodybuilder in the world. By Mar 1983 the same mag profiled her with 27 photos. And that same month and year Strength & Health reported her one arm overhead lift with 120 lbs, which later that year she would increase to a 131 lb one hand jerk overhead, using two hands to bring the bell to the shoulder. Also, in 1980, at the inaugural Miss(Ms) Olympia Cammie placed ninth. By the way: WASP magazine- stood for Women and Strength Periodical when it began in Dec 1976, but with the Apr 30, 1980 issue the letters stood for: Women's Strength and Physique Publication, which later changed to WSP, then after 84 issues, with issue 85 became known as Women's Physique Publication (Feb 1983) and so remained the title until the magazine ceased publication with the 174th issue in 1991. WPP as some called it was a high quality paper glossy magazine that was NEVER offered for sale on news-stands- subscription only, and as I recall about $75 per year and per year meant four issues. There has never been a bodybuilding magazine of comparable high quality paper for men's bodybuilding.

Women's Physique World, WPP's sister publication began in the Fall of 1984, and remains in circulation as a quarterly, helmed by Bill Jentz, Steve Wennerstrom, and John Nafpliotis, the trinity that knows more about female muscle than anyone in the world, I dare say, but their combined interest in men's bodybuilding would require a microscope to be detectable, which situation they see good naturedly as a badge of honor.

Apr 5, 1984 Tom Bruno died; born Jul 27, 1914 Bruno co-wrote a couple of articles with Joseph Curtis Hise for Ironman 7:1 and 7:2, 'The Chest Shaping Squat', and then Tom wrote 'Beginner's Troubles' for Ironman in Aug and Nov 1948. He may have written more but I lack some mags from that time period.

Apr 6, 1946 Leo Stern wins Mr. California at age 25. The year before he had placed 12th in the AAU Mr. America when Clancy Ross won. For the 1946 Mr. America Leo moved up to 3rd place as Alan Stephen won. On Jun 25, 1949 Leo and Bob McCune had a contest at bench pressing with both making 371 lbs, but because Leo 'arched' his back, Bob was declared the winner. Through the years Leo held some contests at his gym. For example on Apr 5, 1947, Sep 20, 1949, then in 1955 three in a row Apr 29, May 28, Jun 25.

Leo may be best known for helping Bill Pearl with his training- I know Bill has always extended immediate credit and gratitude to Leo for his assistance through the years, and the two collaborated on a series of articles for Strength & Health in late 1953, early 1954 (Oct thru Aug) and some other articles. Muscular Development in Aug 1964 presented a story on Leo as 'The man behind the man', and that was also the year that Bill & Leo teamed up to offer Ironman readers a series of 'Do it Right' articles on exercise performance. Leo turned 81 years old on Feb 8, 2002.

Apr 7, 1880 Joe Lambert born and within the year both his parents had died, his mother during the birthing process, and his father not long afterwards. Joe's is a fascinating tale of life's turns. Apparently he stayed with his father's circus and was reared by those in charge of it who trained him in circus feats and in lifting. He was literally 'sold' to another circus and eventually escaped and became hooked up with Louis Cyr and Horace Barre who taught Joe some skills in lifting.

Joe had the honor of watching Apollon train at Prof. Desbonnet's gym in Paris, and he later joined Barnum's circus. I heartily recommend David Webster's May 1986 article in Ironman 'Joe Lambert- The Gypsy Boy Strongman' and David Chapman's Jan 1994 piece in Ironman as part of his Gallery of Ironmen series.

Apt 7, 1881 Dudley A. Sargeant, known for recording the dimensions of strength athletes, wed Ella Frazier. No word on whether he took her precise measurements.

Apr 8, 1887 or 1888 WAP; died Aug 29, 1960. Can anyone clarify these dates? William A. Pullum aka WAP was an incredible force in British lifting circles, and a prolific writer of articles for many magazines. He wrote several series of articles, and here is a small sample of the series which he offered: For the British Amateur Weightlifter and Bodybuilder he wrote 'All Round Lifting Simplified' starting in Jan 1948. Also for BAWB he wrote the series 'Weight Training for Bodybuilding', and 'The 12 Strongest Men I Have known' beginning Feb 1952, then his masterpiece 'Bodybuilding Through the Ages' which started in Feb 1953 and ran in 36 installments.

On the first anniversary of his death H&S reported regarding a memorial at Camberwell New Cemetery, Benchley, Gardens, S.E. 23 Grave #13005, plot 56.

He wrote for many other magazines but according to Health & Strength Mar 1, 1956 p 34 his efforts with that magazine began in Jul 1912 with 'The Secret of My Lifting'. And lift he did! We shall address his lifting abilities at another time. But his book 'Weightlifting Made Easy and Interesting' is recommended, and a modern reprint is available from Bill Hinbern- see his website at superstrengthbooks.com or his ad in Muscle & Fitness mag. What Bill has undertaken in reproducing old texts and instructions manuals in our field cannot be highly enough praised. He has a catalog available, so please check his offerings.

Apr 8, 1903 Arthur Saxon's first public record in the bent press 314 lbs at the Old South London Palace. The bent press was a convoluted lift wherein, after the bell was at the shoulder, the lifting arm pressed as the body leaned away from the bell. Incredible amounts of weight could thus be put overhead if the lifter had the strength and the agility needed. Saxon soon developed the ability to bent press about 300 lbs at any time he chose.

Sometimes, lighter weights would be put on display in theater lobbies for brousing locals to have a feel. Gaining confidence that they could lift that bell, they would, later that evening accept the invitation to come up on stage to try, not realizing that in the meantime the Saxons had filled the bells with more weight, knowing that if their performance weight bells were put in the lobby NO ONE would ever accept the challenge. The Saxons, particularly Arthur, were the genuine articles in strength and they had no respect for or need of false weights and inflated claims.

Did Arthur bent press 386 unofficially? Well, he often bent pressed his brothers in the form of a basket barbell the total weight being about 363 lbs according to Liederman who asserts Arthur did this daily, but Willoughby puts the amount at closer to 370 lbs. So it seems no stretch that an amount that can be lifted daily can be increased by 16 lbs for a successful unofficial record attempt.

In Ironman Mar 1957 in speaking of Bill Klein, 'Klein was the one who weighed the 386- pound weight that was bent pressed on an impromptu occasion by Arthur Saxon at 'Apollo's' school in 1906. And Health & Strength in the Sep 11, 1957 issue presents a photo of Klein signing the affidavit witnessing the 386-pound lift. Also witnessing were Apollo and John Murray according to David Webster's Iron Game.

Never in the history of lifting, to my knowledge, has anyone 'owned' a lift to the degree of strength and for the longevity of strength at it as did Arthur Saxon in regard to the bent press. He was simply, a freak of strength in the lift.

Apr 8, 1949 Mr. Philadelphia at the Town Hall was won by Bill O'Brien who took the tall class then beat out short winner William Stephens and Medium victor Ed Wiza. There were four guest posers: John Fritshe, Zabo Koszewski. Jules Bacon, and Melvin Wells.

Apr 8, 1967 Wilf Sylvester won Mr. Britain for 1966. We have mentioned before the retroactive manner in which the Mr. Britain contest got off schedule in 1956, and when on Mar 30, 1957 the contest was finally staged, it was for the title of Mr. Britain 1956. Don't ask. Anyway, if during 1966 someone had asked Wilf 'who is the 1966 Mr. Britain?' Wilf would have to say 'We'll know next year'.

Apr 8, 1980 Rachel McLish won the United States Women's Bodybuilding Championships staged by Lisa Lyon. Rachel, whom Ricky Wayne used to call McDish carried far less muscle than many of today's fitness competitors, let alone female bodybuilders. Even so, I recall critics saying she was too muscular.

Apr 8, 1983 Carlin Venus's claimed one arm press of 400lbs on some machine at Stern's gym. Leo wrote to me saying this did NOT happen, which of course, any thinking person would know anyway, unless the machine was geared in a very favorable ratio.

Apr 9, 1942 At Bristol High School in Bristol, Connecticut on this date the Junior National Weightlifting championships were staged and Strength & Health magazine reported in the Mar 1942 issue that 'In Connection with this annual; event a junior Mr. America contest will be sponsored'. Kimon Voyages won the title as well as best back and most muscular.

Apr 9, 1979 Gerard Nisivoccia died, collector of and expert on Eugen Sandow.

Apr 9, 1998 Phyllis Frances Jowett died; daughter of George, born Apr 30, 1916

Apr 10, 1902 Sig Klein born in Thorn, West Prussia; Died May 24, 1987 No one has a more prominent position of transitory knowledge from the old regime of iron masters to the new regime of bodybuilding and modern lifting than did the grand master Sig Klein. Sig would have become 100 years old today!

If you get an opportunity to acquire his former publication KLEIN'S BELL, don't waste the chance! It ran from Jun 1931 thru Dec 1932 (same month Strength & Health began) and included a total of 144 pages of information in the 19 issues.

For the first four issues, Sig wrote everything in the small magazine, but then various other authors joined in occasionally. Some of them were: Ray Van Cleef began his colum 'Odds & Ends' with the Oct 1931 issue till mag ended. Dr. Woods Hutchinson wrote about Exercise & the Heart in Oct 1931 Walter Greenfield profiled El Saied M. Nosier Jan 1932 B.S.Whitney in Jan 1932 wrote about Diet.

In July 1932 Alan Calvert contributed thoughts about 'dancing' the spinal muscles, Andrew Judson asked 'Do We Need Exercise?', and Fred Weber wrote a letter to the publication. In Aug 1932 George Jowett remembered when Apollon became angry. Charles Trevor in Sep 1932 explained Muscle Binding In Oct 1932 Abe Einson told of The Strong Men of Paris And in the final issue Adolph Nordquest summarized his career

Those were the days of the 15" Arm Club, and Sig asserted that he had never measured an arm of 17" on anyone weighing less than 200 lbs, and proclaimed that an arm of 15" at a bodyweight of 140 lbs would be a good size.

Each issue contained an explanation of a 'Special Exercise': 1931: June: dipping, pushups; Jul: knee raise; Aug: chin with ropes; Sep: leg curl; Oct: neck raise from wrestler's bridge; Nov: wrist curl, Dec: pullover on bench. 1932: Jan: seated leg raise; Feb: face down leg lift; Mar: palms-back French press; Apr: leg raise with dumbbell between feet; May: calf raise, one legged; Jun: arm development (this installment was not called a special exercise); Jul: deep knee bend; Aug: dumbbell lateral raise; Sep: pinch gripping; Oct: one arm clean and overhead; Nov: neck strap; Dec: twists downward for the sides.

After KLEIN'S BELL folded, Sig wrote for Strength & Health, offering 21 articles thru Jun 1936, and then starting his monthly feature in July, called Klein's Kolumn which ran in most issues through Apr 1941. Also in some of those issues of S&H, Sig offered other pieces. But if you want a great series including details about Sig, then his biographical series titiled 'My Quarter Century in the Iron Game' is must reading. It ran in 17 installments from Mar 1944 thru Sep 1945 (with the exception of issues Dec 1944 and Jul 1945).

Also inescapably important from him was the series 'Strongmen I remember Best' which started in S&H in Feb 1956 and ended in Mar 1959.

Klein's own gym at 717 Seventh Ave in New York City was the hub for every visiting strongman, and contained some beautiful and rare lifting implements..

When Dan Lurie, thru Muscle Training Illustrated magazine began his testimonial dinners to honor great men of the sport, the first dinner on Feb 18, 1968 at the Grand Hotel Ashland Place, honored Sig.

Apr 10, 1948 Harry Smith won Jr. Mr. America in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, leaving John Farbotnik in second place by one and a half points. Fraysher Ferguson was third, and Fraysher now lives in the Midwest.

Apr 10, 1948 George Eiferman won Mr. California at the Embassy Auditorium in Los Angeles, and he was also declared best bodypart in arms, abs, chest, and legs, and placed 2nd in best back. He tried NOT to win best abs by sticking his gut out on purpose (not wanting to hog all the trophies) but won anyway! Don't we all wish for the same problem- not being able to hide our great abs! Bill Trumbo won best back, and Elias Rodriguez who placed second in the Mr. California took the most muscular award.

Apr 10, 1953 Malcolm Brenner pressed (did not repeatedly clean it) 200 lbs for 100 reps in an elapsed time of ten minutes, 43 seconds, which is 643 seconds. I lack more information of this incident- was it a strict press, was it done in sets, was the weight placed on stands during rest? Can anyone help with this info? Anyway, about a month later Malcolm placed 10th in the Mr. America in Indianapolis. Here are some of the confirmed wins for Brenner: 1949 Mr. Muscle Beach Nov 17, 1950 Jr. Mr. California Apr 14, 1951 Mr. California 1951 Mr. South Bay May 04, 1952 Jr. Mr. America 1954 Mr. Physical Fitness 1954 Mr. Surf Festival

My files show him competing in nine other contests. Brenner was known for his great arms, and in fact the year Bill Pearl won the Mr. America (1953), Brenner placed 10th, but WON best arms!

Apr 10, 1964 Dale Tomita born. Fitness model. You say Tomita I say Tomato. She won the 1996 IFBB Florida Pro Fitness.

Apr 11, 1920 Ernest Cadine, the great French weightlifter on this day and a week later combined to offer these lifts: right arm jerk 187.25 lbs, two arm press 187.25 lbs, left arm snatch 154.25 lbs, two dumbbells jerk 247 lbs, and two arm jerk (barbell) 297.25 lbs. Cadine was born in 1893 so would have been approximately 22-23 years of age. When accomplishing the above lifts his bodyweight was 170.75 lbs. There was mention that Cadine was able to ONE hand deadlift the 366 lb set of Apollon's railcar wheels, though substantiation seems to be missing, and on the face of it this feat seems improbable, because even Apollon was not credited with this ability.

Apr 11, 1953 Alyce Yarick squatted 105 lbs for 105 reps according to Ironman July 1953, or 115 lbs for 105 reps according to Strength & Health Jan 1964. Alyce was the wife of Ed Yarick, who was the mentor of Steve Reeves. In 1992 I spoke to her son Bart a couple of times, who told me that some years before she had sold some magazines to John Grimek. Bart said his mother gave up lifting in the mid 1960s and resorted to walking for exercise, usually with her dogs, along a canal in the city where she lived. She and Ed would also jog together, and Ed kept at the iron until he was in his 70s.

Apr 11, 1995 Manfred Hoeberl's car accident, which resulted in very serious injuries. Only weeks before this I had measured his arm at the Arnold Classic.

Measurements: Although Mother Nature offers exceptions to many general rules, there are some factors that can be calculated to, in general, estimate various body parts sizes. Here we will be addressing arm size, and the potential limits of size possible.

As a general statement, and a rule of thumb, measure the wrist right above that thumb. If you are hoping for an upper arm to be triple the circumference of your wrist, you are in for a quadruple disappointment. Unless your name is Manfred Hoeberl, who was the exception to this general rule, you will NEVER attain an upper arm measurement which triples your wrist circumference. Forget what 'appears' to be triple. Invest in a measuring tape, and begin asking to measure arms.

At this point, champion bodybuilders will adopt the same magnetic polarity as the measuring tape and reject its touch. Paul Dillett's answer to my request at the Mr. Olympia a few years ago was 'You can measure it at next year's Arnold Classic'. Nasser El Sonbaty's reply to me was 'I'm superstitious' and somehow this answer seemed to satisfy him. Sergio Oliva's reply to me was 'Your guess is as good as mine', and Kaz refused to allow me to measure his forearm saying that it was 'all dilapidated and torn up'. Vince Taylor's reply was, 'Sure, what's the big deal?', and his arm, pumped, backstage at the Arnold Classic measured 19.75", and was among the largest arms in the contest (judging by appearance) as he stood next to some other competitors.

I thanked Taylor, and told him that the big deal must be in the minds of some of the other competitors who refused to be on the record.

When I asked Greg Kovacs, who by the way, seemed a pleasant fellow with a ready smile, if I could measure his arm for the record, he declined. It was then being reported as larger than Manfred's arm, which it most certainly was not. Greg acknowledged that his arm was not as large as was claimed for him, but asserted that when pumped his arm measures 'about 25 inches'. This was at the 2001 Arnold Classic.

Jim Quinn also declined to allow me to measure his upper arm, but consented to have his forearm measured, which I did, but have misplaced those notes and cannot report what the size was. How utterly helpful!

Misleading Photos of Arm Measurements: The height of a flexed upper arm can be compared to other items in the same photo to get a ratio. Remember the famous photo of Sergio that showed his flexed upper arms were taller than the distance from his chin to the top of his head? His arms were at that time were approximately 20 inches. Now head shape/size varies, but in general if a flexed upper arm height goes only from the tip of the chin to the eyebrows, you have no 20" arm. If the height reaches beyond mid-forehead, you are talking serious size. In Manfred's case his arm was taller than two Pepsi Cola cans stacked one atop the other- his upper arm height, which I measured with calibers, was 10", and as mentioned, the arm circumference was 26".

So, when you see photos of men having their arms measured and the reading appears to be 22" or more, study the part of the tape measure that is hanging STRAIGHT down and is not encircling the arm. This straight piece of the tape will give you the ratio you need to get an approximate height of the arm. If the arm height is only 8" or 9" you can discount anything larger than 20" or 22" respectively.

Marla Duncan, a fitness model, was also on stage when I was measuring Manfred. We compared her waist, 26" with his arm, 26". Digest that thought: her waist-line could hang off his shoulder- they both being the same size! In what turned out to be for me one of the great disappointments in this field so far, the photographer who was to have been on hand did not show, and a friend of mine in the audience who was sitting with my wife tried to get some shots, but they came out blurred. I understand German television got video of the event but I have never seen the footage.( By the way, my wife asked me if it was necessary for me to measure Marla's waistline twice. This is when I assured her that science required exactness.)

So, grab a can of cola, stack another can on top of it, stand in front of a mirror, and see if your arm is taller than one can. Taller than both cans together? Then, it's good to see you again, Manfred.

One trick that can be employed is this. If a champion bodybuilder or strength athlete is under contract to a certain supplement company, ask if you can get a photo of their flexed arm right next to a can of the product. When the photo is developed, you will already have your ratio by simply measuring the can of product, then you can calculate the height of the arm. Underhanded, isn't it. No, the underhanded part is the false claim which prompts such means to be the only means by which size can be determined at least approximately. Another way is to ask the person to stand close to a block wall, then when the person walks away you can measure the block size for use when the photo is ready. But the easiest way to determine potential is to ask to measure the wrist- usually this will be allowed because it is a size that really cannot be 'developed'. Triple that measurement and you have your uppermost potential.

By the way, regarding forearm measurements: a circumference twice the wrist is world class. Keep the forearm and upper arm straight; do not flex the wrist or gooseneck the wrist; you may clench the fist like a boxer. If your forearm is 1. all muscle, not obese, and 2. twice the circ as your wrist, you are very unusual. Even Manfred could not claim this distinction. You may measure in any manner you choose, but if you compare yourself to the old strongmen, then this is the way they were measured, so play fair.

A final word on guessing or estimating arm size. Only minutes before I measured Manfred's arm, I was chatting with a former Mr. Universe who guessed that the largest Manfred's arm could be was 22", because the man told me, Manfred's arms weren't that much larger than his own. Hat size is 1/3 of head circumference. Know anybody who wears a size 8.6 hat? Then you know someone who head is as large as Manfred's arm was in those days. Also someone who wears a size 7 hat will have a head 21" in circumference. What size hat do you wear? Do you know anyone whose arm is that size?

No INCH 101 Installment this week.

Roark Reference #5: David Willoughby's series 'What They Measured" in Weider's Your Physique magazine:
May/Jun 1943 p 22 How to take your measurements
Jul/Aug 1943 p 24 What they Measured debuts: John Grimek
Sep/Oct 1943 p 27 Eugen Sandow
Nov/Dec 1943 p 27 John Davis
Feb/Mar 1944 p 33 Maciste
Apr/May 1944 p 33 Earle Liederman
Jun/Jul 1944 p 33 Joe Nordquest
Aug/Sep 1944 p 33 George(s) Stanglemeier
Oct/Nov 1944 p 33 Maurice Jones
Dec/Jan 1945 p 37 Louis Cyr
Feb/Mar 1945 p 39 Thomas Inch
Apr/May 1945 p 37 Hermann Goerner/Apollon [Louis Uni]
Jun/Jul1945 p 39 Henry 'Milo' Steinborn
Aug/Sep 1945 p 39 Karl; Swoboda
Oct/Nov 1945 p 41 Louis Cyr [cf Dec 1944/Jan 1945 p 37]
Dec/Jan 1946 p 41 George Lurich
Feb/Mar 1946 (can anyone help out here?)
Apr 1946 p 39 Barton Horvath
Aug 1946 p 49 Arthur Saxon
Sep 1946 p 51 Carl Mutschler
Oct 1946 p 51 Bert Goodrich
Nov 1946 p 51 Arnold Dahlin
Dec 1948 p 11 Eugen Sandow
Jan 1949 p 20 Lionel Strongfort
Feb 1949 p 22 George Hackenschmidt
Mar 1949 p 14 Adolph E. Nordquest
Apr 1949 p 07 Otis Lambert

See you April 19th !

Replies: Comments(5)


Roger Eells was my Grandfather. Please let me know if I can offer any information.

Posted by
Shelley DeVries @ 04/12/2002 11:56 PM CST

Joe,

In a past issue your wrote- Feb 25, 1939
Charles Atlas claimed......
Anyway, on this day a cease and desist order was issued against Atlas and is mentioned in Strength & Health June 1939 p 12.

Can you tell me more about this "cease and desist" order?
What was it about?
I heard that Hoffman had been issued a gag order by the FTC to not bad mouth Atlas anymore.

Posted by Dave @ 04/10/2002 07:37 AM CST

Dale,
Ironman in Jan 1954 p 30 presents a photo showing Saxon erect with his brothers overhead in the basket bent press, but the photo is probably retouched- for one thing, the background appears to be changed and the thin bar which Arthur is grasping dead center is not bending AT ALL, whereas the photo above this one shows Aston with two hands lifting two, lighter, ladies and his bar is bending.
Witnesses in this case mean more than this 'photo'.
Many, as you know, of history's greatest lifts lack photos- at least to my knowledge: Goerner's claimed one hand deadlifts, Anderson's backlift, and the overwhelming majority of Apollon's lifts.
Sometimes, no camera was handy, and sometimes the claimed lifts lacked more than a ready camera...

Posted by Joe Roark @ 04/07/2002 04:54 AM CST

One critic of Saxon's bent presses questioned his lifts higher than 336, stating he never stood totally erect with those weights. It seems that the knowledgable witnesses, you mentioned above, would know the difference, but do you know of any photos that show Saxon standing up with weights over 336?

Posted by Dale Harder @ 04/06/2002 10:09 PM CST

Talking about head size mine is 26" in circumference!

Posted by Old Guy @ 04/05/2002 06:54 PM CST